Egypt – why we should be afraid

It is not the Muslim Brotherhood that makes me shudder, although they are bad enough. The Muslim Brotherhood have cast themselves as moderate, not so extreme and that they do not want to impose strict Sharia. I am not sure that I believe them, but for the moment will give them the benefit of the doubt. However the way I see it, the real threat in Egypt comes from the Salafists.

There are two parties that have won seats in the new Egyptian Assembly that are way more extreme than the Freedom and Justice Party of the Muslim Brotherhood. These are Gamaa Islamya (sp) Party and the Nour Party. The next most popular party belongs to the liberal bloc, which is a blow to the university elites who fought to get rid of Muburak.

This report from the UK Telegraph has some rather important information and I do think that you should read it, with an open mind… and then shudder about what has taken place.

What bothers me so much is that the man who masterminded the assassination of Anwar Sadat is now poised to take on a political role in Egypt. This man is an associate of the current Al Qaeda leader Zawahiri. Did you get that? The Gamaa Islamiya Party has links to Al Qaeda and they drew 20% of the vote in Egypt.

This is the stuff that causes people to have nightmares. These two Salafist parties are extreme in their views, and the kind of Sharia that they want to implement is on a par with that found in Saudi Arabia, and is probably even worse.

What then are the implications of them having power?

1. Israel’s situation is looking sicker.

2. Egypt will likely align with Iran

3. Christians will be persecuted in a much worse fashion than is already the case.

Any alignment with Iran will be a disaster for the world at large. These men mean business. For Egyptian women to have these Salafists gain any sort of power would spell disaster.

The only way that such a disaster could be prevented would be for Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party to spurn the more radical parties and to ally themselves with the liberal parties instead. Only if that happens could there by any guarantee that Egypt will not end up being like Saudi Arabia (where the imams believe such nonsense as letting a woman drive a car will lead to more prostitution, homosexuality, and gasp fewer virgins!!)

Keep your eye on Egypt because developments in that country are going to be critical for the rest of the world. Thanks Østupid, you did a great job on this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5 responses to “Egypt – why we should be afraid

  1. Thanks for the information. I never knew about the political implications in Egypt.


  2. Yup. With Egypt, it was inevitable. You could have written the same essay the day Mubarek was deposed. You knew what was coming.

    In other places, it is not as inevitable. But in the cracks opened up by chaos, the rats (and worse) are likely to crawl.

    In the corporate world they will tell you to never implement big change without proper preparation and planning down to the gnat’s eyelash. Same is true for political environments. Otherwise, great peril lurks.


  3. Carlyle, yes I most definitely could have written that same essay the day that Muburak was deposed. In fact I have always expressed concern about the Egypt situation. It was always obvious. Not once did I agree with the movement in Egypt because I thought it could backfire. I thought that way because of El Baradei

    However, I also like to observe what is happening before expressing an opinion.


  4. Carlyle, just some random thoughts here based upon your final comments… having worked for a company that went bust because of some very big changes (in their accounting and distribution system – which failed; and a move to a new location at the same time) I can only say that I have personally experienced what can go wrong.

    However, I think that we have to look at what triggered the movement in the first place. The answer seems to be THAT Cairo speech. It seems to me that the speech itself contained hints for those who were plotting to make the move in Egypt.

    The actions in both Tunisia and Libya seem to be entirely separate, but I think that at least in Tunisia there was some kind of plot in the making ready to pounce at any moment.

    It is in other countries: Bahrain, Morocco, Jordan and yes even Syria and Yemen. In each case one has to try and find out who is behind the movement. The short answer to some of it is Muslim Brotherhood under various names. It is also the Salafists who are associated with Al Qaeda as evidenced in particular in Egypt.

    To me though, Libya and Syria remain the stand out situations. In both of these countries the regimes turned on the people in a most vicious attack. The lies coming from the Syrian regime are just incredible. That is a country in the midst of a civil war. The people attacking are in fact army deserters. This is not the same as in Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain, Jordan and Morocco. Likewise when Libya experienced civil war, there were army deserters who were participating. To this I add that not all of the anti-regime people left their posts, and instead they remained but pretended to be pro-Gadhafi. Many took great risks to help the underground resistance in Tripoli, including Naval officers who helped to smuggle in the weapons. Libya was indeed a people based movement motivated by people who finally wanted to get rid of the regime at any cost. The downside has been the involvement of the Islamists. The upside is that Belhadj did not get a post in the newly formed interim goverment. Neither did any of the other Islamists. It is possible, therefore, that next year when Libyans do go to the polls, that they will vote in Islamists. We shall see. Anyway, you cannot impose Sharia on a people where it already exists.

    Talking about Sharia, in Egypt there is a moderate form of Sharia in place, but it is not enough for the Salafists who are openly talking about forcing women into a very secondary role, and introducing a number of other provisions that would be against what most Egyptians want. I doubt that the Muslim Brotherhood Freedom and Justice Party can stop the introduction of those rules. THe big losers will be the Christians.


  5. You are right about so many things. You are right about THAT speech. Sure it had a lot to do with it. And it went right over the heads of the political class in USA. Even the much vaunted “elites” and MSM did not “get it” – or at least feigned ignorance.

    I hope I am not guilty of pre-judging. But you and I both knew where the Egyptian situation was headed. You are right that Libya, for instance, is not inevitable to turn out bad. I think we both believe that much. I just think you are optimistic. I hope you are right. But my opinion is that such situations usually come out bad. I can help you pray and/or hope but I am pessimistic.

    In the end, my main concern is Israel, not the dictatorships or hardships of their own peoples. We need Arab governments that are not made up of the “kill all Jews/Christians” branch of Islam. Other than that, I have other international interests than what goes on inside each of their countries.